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  3. 3 points
    http://www.businessinsider.com/burning-man-camp-vandalized-2016-9 There was another altercation where burners trashed a bunch of tents/equipment at a camp that didn't 'share' enough..
  4. 3 points
    Class War? I did not hear about this, but honestly I don't follow the event itself very closely any more. Ever a bunch of drunk, drugged, unruly "frat boys" (and their assorted females) from the event tried to run me and my oldest out of Trego a few years ago, I've wanted nothing to do with that area during that time of the year. God Bless Eugene Stoner.
  5. 3 points
    I suspect it's going to die under the weight of their own hypocrisy, last year there were several 'class war' incidents... I'm hoping for all out riots this year.
  6. 3 points
    That's an interesting point (land choice), but I'm not sure it is accurate. On one hand, BMORG goes through hoops (or so we are led to believe) to get their permit, maintain the permit, and to close out the permit. Those 'hoops' equate to oversight, fees, government intrusion, bureaucratic administration, overhead, etc. On the other hand, if BMORG had a large enough chunk of land for the event, they could likely avoid at least some scrutiny and intrusion, and worry less about competing interests (though those have all more or less faded away now - La Résitance has been broken). I think they use the playa now because access is rather simple (good roads) for both patrons and vendors/suppliers, it's flat, generally stable, not prone to flash flooding, and is not used by any competing interests that have *money*, i.e. larger cattle ranchers, etc. It's not about trashing their property vs. other property, it's more about what is easiest for them. Plus the playa allows room to grow, although the event seems to have hit a ceiling wherein it simply can't get any bigger without major changes. All that said, I'd throw Larry and Maid Moron and friends in front of a Panzer IV and do single-tread donuts on them. I have no love for them, their false philosophy, their organization, or their rabidly obsequious followers.
  7. 3 points
    I think there general counsels primary job is as a lobbyist, so they can trash public land for this party when they already own places they could hold it.... why trash their property when they can abuse public land?
  8. 3 points
    So I went and looked up their general counsel. He claims the following practice areas. Note this does not mean he is an expert or that he holds certifications in these areas of law. It's self-reported, and generally indicates focus areas of a practice: Administrative Law Contracts Election, Campaign & Political Environmental Law Government Government Contracts Insurance Zoning, Planning & Land Use Most of the above are sensible areas when dealing with an event and organization like this. Obviously the bold entry piqued my curiosity. His bio states: "Raymond says, “Burning Man represents the extreme culmination of what is possible when people work together.”" (https://burningman.org/network/about-us/people/year-round-staff/) Personally, I would say a thermonuclear weapon represents the 'extreme culmination of what is possible when people work together', but what do I know.
  9. 3 points
    And that's just the stated income from ONE of the many organizations they run. If you read their 990's for a few years you'll see that they funnel money in/out/around all of these organizations skimming off money, funneling it to friends (certainly getting kickbacks)..etc. They've been the exact thing most participants claim to abhor for at least the last decade, very likely much longer. They are using money laundering techniques to try and hide their hypocrisy. It doesn't work of course, but confusing enough that most of the participants can't follow ;-)
  10. 3 points
    I believe 6 of the BM founders are making low 7 figure incomes and have been for many years.
  11. 3 points
    I enjoy going to places that are way outside the norm and most people believe it impossible to visit them. Like nuclear tests sites, electronic warfare ranges and even nuclear power plants that came close to a nuclear melt down. But I am just kind of odd in that respect. Project Faultless Project Shoal Warfare Complex Rancho Seco
  12. 3 points
    Shelby

    Brand New to forums

    Thnx 🙂 Glad to find a community of people who also think these places are cool!
  13. 3 points
    Alastair

    Brand New to forums

    Welcome
  14. 3 points
    DocTy

    New here

    Hello, Ive been obsessed with exploring places captured by the hands of time as long as I remember. Just moved to Southern Colorado from Western Washington. I'm excited as there is much more history here. Can't stand vandals and taggers and thieves. Love these videos and very happy to find this forum.
  15. 3 points
    wimc

    Hey, I'm new here!

    Hello Alastair, welcome to EF.
  16. 3 points
    Some very nice views!
  17. 3 points
    braindead0

    New here

    Welcome to the forum!
  18. 3 points
    David A. Wright

    The Desert Oracle

    Board member Robin Flinchum has something in the works to publish there.
  19. 3 points
    Exploro

    Cool places near Las Vegas to explore

    you can also check this out:
  20. 3 points
    Carie seibert

    Hello from california

    New to forum, great site to find out sites for rock hounding near me. Thank you for sharing for those who do. Am trying to find out if Peterson Moutain Quartz is accessable still from California side, and if so can you camp over night at site in vehicle? Looking for a road trip for this week and have seen some pretty rocks come from here, but don't want to travel that far to be blocked with a gate or ?. Thank you in advance for any information. Carie
  21. 3 points
    Carie seibert

    Hello from california

    Thanks gonna head out any way need to get out of this city and get some fresh air. Just was hoping to find some rocks while I was away.
  22. 3 points
    MB64

    Good Morning from North Idaho

    At least the bears run out of the way, deer just stand there in the road LOL
  23. 2 points
    Another thing I am starting to hate is all the BM vandalism I am seeing all over the state. Seems they leave their symbol all over many of the abandoned places and ghost towns I have been to.
  24. 2 points
    Wow, that's insane, they are making big bucks off the event. Beautiful photos Jack!
  25. 2 points
    I recently became curious about Burning Man as a corporation after discovering that there are Burning Man employees that live in Gerlach year-round. I thought what is there to do when the event isn’t going on in the month of August. I did some checking and here is what I learned… Burning Man Project 501(c)(3) - Parent organization Black Rock City LLC Black Rock City Properties LLC Gerlach Holdings LLC Decommodification LLC Black Rock Arts Foundation 501c3 The 2015 IRS 990 for Burning Man Project shows a net asset/fund balance of $10.6 million. Burning Man Project is the main nonprofit organization 501(c)(3), and that organization bought the 53 parcels making up the 3,658 acres around Fly Geyser. Black Rock City LLC is a company that handles arts and other events. Black Rock City Properties LLC is the real estate holding company and has 14 properties. Gerlach Holdings LLC is the real estate rental company and has 4 parcels. Decommodification LLC handles trademark license management. And yet another nonprofit org 501(c)(3) called Black Rock Arts Foundation that handles even more arts and other events. New affiliate DISTRIKT 501c3 is an Art Grant organization.
  26. 2 points
    The first photo shows what the playa looked like in May 2017. Almost a full lake which many thought would not dry out in time. The second photo is from August 2017 and it has dried out and the building of Black Rock City has begun.
  27. 2 points
    Bodie, California has been one of my favorites. But that was back in the 1970s and 1980s, when more buildings were open and available. I generall went in autumn, especially after the first snow, when there are few tourists. My favorite memories were in the winter of 1983/1984, when the snow was so deep only the schoolhouse cupolla, a few random telephone poles, and part of the Standard Mill poked up out of the snow. I lived in nearby June Lake then, riding my snowmobile up from where I parked my truck down near Mono Lake. Around 1997, my wife and I were attending a friends of Bodie dinner. After dark, we were on a tour of the Standard when the curator of the small museum in Beatty, Nevada and a friend had an asthma attack. Her vehicle and medicines were locked in her truck over a half mile away. I knew the park ranger and aksed for permission to go get my truck, pick her up and bring her to her truck in the parking lot. I got permission. It was great fun to see Bodie at night from behind the wheel, similar to the view of residents in the last days the town was active. Stupid me left my still and video cameras with my wife at the mill, so I was not able to record the event. Bodie is really neat to photograph after dark, but is not available then to the general public.
  28. 2 points
    Shelby

    Brand New to forums

    Hi everyone nice to meet you! I'm a person who has had a passion for creepy abandoned stuff (whether they be haunted or not) for her entire life and I actually recently started up a youtube channel so I could help show the world these beautiful places. I'm pretty brand new having just posted my first video 4 days ago. I'm also brand new to forums (this is actually my first one I've ever joined), so if you guys have any advice or anything I'd really appreciate it. Thank you guys for listening to me drone on lol I can't wait to start interacting with you guys! I'll definitely be looking to you guys for support lol seeing as I'm so new here and I can't tell you how great it is to meet people who have a passion and love for the same type of thing I do . It feels so good to know I'm not alone.
  29. 2 points
    Shelby

    Brand New to forums

    Missouri is where I live the upper northwest to be specific but I plan to travel to Kansas Iowa and Nebraska as well and I'm actually thinking about doing a five hour trip one way to get to this abandoned town in Missouri though I'll save that for a special occasion like Halloween. And my Youtube channel name is Traveling Sally. Sally Sue is the nickname my grandfather gave me when I was a little girl so I decided to name my channel after that.
  30. 2 points
    Thanks 🙂 I appreciate the support
  31. 2 points
    meepers

    Ewen Colliery Machine Shop Revisited.

    I finally got back out and filmed a new exploration video. I took a guest and went back to the location of my first filmed Urbex. Enjoy.
  32. 2 points
    Alastair

    Hey, I'm new here!

    Hello all, My name is Alastair and I'm from the UK. I obviously share the same passions as everyone else on here! I can't wait to get involved in discussions on here and share stories! Regarding yuor new video about Bristol Wellas Ghost Town. I believe you can contact the owner of the Mine/town to discuss if you can have a look around. I believe the owner is called Kerr McGee. Might be something for you to look into going forward perhaps? Nevertheless great videos and great content!
  33. 2 points
    Alastair

    Hey, I'm new here!

    Oh, My bad! I'll try do some research too and will let you know if I can find anything!
  34. 2 points
    Chad Felipe

    Goin north....

    Hey guys ive been away for a while but wanted to let you know ill be exploring a great gold mining ghost town over the next couple of weeks!! Im excited to share pics and findings of our adventure!
  35. 2 points
    Always love them views. Was there a fire in the last one, looks like it?
  36. 2 points
    wimc

    Goin north....

    Good luck and have fun.
  37. 2 points
    Finally... 700 miles of off roading and finally a dirt nap! Now the bikes been down.. I was driving down a loose/sandy/rocky road...saw a shortcut.. didn't look that steep.. until about 8' from the end when the angle increased a LOT. I made a tactical decision to drop the bike, easier than trying to stop and turn around ;-) Got her up, turned around and went the other way.. no problem..
  38. 2 points
    I would have loved to have been a sidekick with Burton Frasher when he travelled and photographed these historic places all those years ago! Those were wonderful days to be a ghost town explorer. About 20 years ago, I had considerable correspondence with his son, obtaining copies many of Frasher's photos for a writing project. He related some of his experiences with his father. Wish I had better notes. And a better memory. Thank you for taking me along on your travel to the Dunderberg. It's been years since I've been there. The weather looked nice and embracing. Maybe you ought to have tried Bennettville that day. You might have reinacted my visit in 1989, when I got caught up there in a sudden summertime blizzard!
  39. 2 points
    Exploro

    Abandoned Mine California

    The 1963 Ford F-100 has a smaller hood and grill but the style of its other truck parts are quite similar to the Dodge military trucks back then.
  40. 2 points
    Jack Freer

    The Desert Oracle

    Here is something I have found to be very interesting, informative and enjoyable, which a combination of all three seems to be rare these days, and is worth a read and a listen. The Desert Oracle also known as “The Voice of the Desert” publishes a small guide with short stories and other information about the Mojave Desert and surrounding areas. The Desert Oracle They have recently started the Desert Oracle Radio program on 107.7 KCDZ in Joshua Tree. The 30-minute program airs about every Friday at 10 p.m. and you can also listen to the programs as a podcast. Desert Oracle Radio on podbay.fm
  41. 2 points
    Bob

    New here

    Welcome DocTy, great to have you here.
  42. 2 points
    Glow_wanders

    New here

    Hello my names grant and i wanted to drop a post on this. Avid explore/desert rat, came across this page when searching for new sites to explore. Im no tagger nor the kind who is going to destroy anything. Pruly interested in the history behind every story, no matter how wierd. Im sure a few of you have been to Ballarat and met Rocky, i tend to visit him once every 2 months and go exploring in Panamint Valley. Looking to explore more east towards the boarder of ca/nv.
  43. 2 points
    Looks like things were really moist!! Seems like the cabin is in pretty good shape all things considered.. nice photos!
  44. 2 points
    Caleb

    Cool places near Las Vegas to explore

    I'm actually gonna go do that one soon too. It's called Riverside I believe.
  45. 2 points
    Exploro

    Cool places near Las Vegas to explore

    How about Nelson? It's just 45 minutes away from Las Vegas Boulevard
  46. 2 points
    Exploro

    Cool places near Las Vegas to explore

    Maybe try Rhyolite
  47. 2 points
    CindyN11

    Critters

    The twins
  48. 2 points
    Hello on this episode! We are exploring a Haunted mansion. Me and one of my team members felt very uncomfortable when we were inside here, it felt heavy in terms of breathing. Long story short, one of my friends got attacked (scratched) and I picked up some tampering from an unknown presence. There was also a unsolved murder here if that contributes to anything of this place being haunted. Our Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrNqMXvNR5nRn2Q45Dh3FzA Subscribe to us from Texas, it would greatly mean alot to us for your support! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grAz3FdutZ8 Any comments and feedback are more than welcomed. Thank you for reading.
  49. 2 points
    CindyN11

    Critters

    Photo of Mama. I am so thankful that I get to wake up to this natural beauty every day. She often leaves her twin fawns in my yard when she goes foraging for food
  50. 2 points
    Bob, I can fully understand your point of view and why you and others are so against this gathering, and I do agree with most of what you say. Those involved and in control of this event need to be more responsible and make sure that everyone obeys the rules and doesn't leave trash behind. Sadly, too many people could care less about rules or respect for the land they are using. I do have one friend who participates at Burning Man. By day he is a college professor and by night he is a fire twirler / spinner. He is an environmentalist who also enjoys a good steak or hamburger, and politically he is mostly conservative and does not drink or use drugs. He practices what he preaches. This is why I was a bit bothered over tarring everyone who participates with the same brush Regarding the ghost town thing, as we all I know I WOULD dress up in the old fashioned clothes since I have a fondness for the town floozy / saloon girl look,and have the wardrobe to prove it! LOL! Sadly, I won't be going to Randsburg this year to play my part as town floozy. My legs collapsed on me while standing in line in the store the other day and my doctor says there is no way I can withstand a whole day of parading up and down a dirt road while wearing heeled lace up Victorian boots. Kind of bummed about that, but it is what it is. Okay, I admit it. I am a freak! I LIKE to dress up in funky clothes, hahahahaha!
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