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Desertdog, here is the general location: 40.27'15.70 N 118.45'48.00 W Sorry about the slow reply as I haven't been keeing up on "all things' internet for many months. Here is a view from the cemetery. Seven Troughs canyon would be on the left side. Mazuma would be just above and left of center.
Welcome as well, Lee. I appreciate the photo and information. I used google earth to kind of position where the photo was taken and then scooted over to where you said the cemetery would be and it went straight over the spot where I thought it was. When viewing from the general area where the photo was taken, it always seems to me that the cemetery would be further around the corner, perhaps out of view to the south, but that's not the case since the slope of the hill isn't that much. I do believe that is the spot based on the terrain, the "general" appearance of the slight mounds, rock piles etc. They're pretty worn down but I believe that's it. Thanks once again and good luck hunting.
Desert4wd reacted to a post in a topic: Seven Troughs, Vernon, Mazuma, Tunnel Camp, Nevada - Day Trip: April 27, 2013
Thanks Bob. Since I don't know this forum/BB to well, I wouldn't know if that "player" was common or not. It was about three inches square and did a slide show, with a timing adjustment for how long each pic would show. I've never seen anything like it, but I bet your right. Flickr changed (radically IMO) their whole scheme of doing things a few days ago and I'm still pretty clueless about it except for a few basic things. Back on topic: Thanks to asmcrazy for recommending Hugh Shamberger's book. I think I have a book or two of his, but not this one. I will look for it
Here is a rephotography set that has all the ones I've done. Most recent are at the end (bottom). Please cut and paste it as this link was producing a player of some sort on the screen here: www.flickr.com/photos/desert4wd/sets/72157614120808725/ Here's a collection of most everything from this last trip... : http://www.flickr.com/photos/desert4wd/collections/72157633314720544/
Well done with the photo comparisons David. I did the same thing (same two historic photos) on my trip but you did a better job of lining things up. Excellent!
Your research is terrific! (I'm sadly lacking in that ability) Wow, that certainly adds more depth to those towns and makes it more interesting. Seems like I haven't read much about the area like I usually do, just picking up pieces here and there. Seems to me I remember seeing a larger rock near the entrance to the Seven Troughs canyon that had drill holes in it. I hadn't thought about it for some time but gave a casual look for it on my way out a few weeks back with no luck. Hmmmm.....
Very good reads Cindy - thanks for posting up. I've seen a story or two in the past, but not the original material. Thanks for researching! Desertdog, here is a link to a screen shot from goog earth: http://www.flickr.com/photos/desert4wd/8685690413/sizes/o/in/photostream/ 40.27.16N, 118.45.47W (approx). I believe its fair to say its close enough to the canyon entrance (the vague description given by one of the cemetery/burial websites) but it is up on a rise to the south and definitely out of the canyon where the flood was.
That is the cemetery below Tunnel Camp. I didn't count but there are quite a few more than seven buried here. i thought all that died in the flood were buried in one place, presumably at the ones near Seven Troughs Canyon.
Lots of guesses here from me. I believe that Tunnel Camp was probably too small to have their own cemetery. However. there is no reason that those who died way back when from both Seven Troughs, Mazuma (pre-flood) and Tunnel Camp weren't buried there. Those who were buried at Mazuma apparently were only those who died from the flood. Going back to the "Seven Troughs" cemetery, the one apparently in front of Tunnel Camp, I would think that there would possibly be more burials there than what it seems. I'm sure many are unaccounted for, but who knows.
Thanks for the info and video Cindy. That is the cemetery below Tunnel Camp and there is no reason it should not be listed as the Seven Troughs Cemetery because it is within normal distances from town. Tunnel, was connected with Seven Troughs, so to speak. What I've read concerning the Mazuma cemetery is the same as what you said above with no visible markers. Also it's supposed to be "near" Seven Troughs Canyon which is +/- half mile away. I didn't measure it...lol. Plus it's supposed to be easy to miss. The one at Tunnel is well marked (could have been improved after the original comment. There are too many gravesites from what i was expecting as well. The apparent site I found would fit the bill with maybe five or six possible sites. (sure look like graves to me). No markers and near enough to the entrance to the Seven Troughs canyon. I was thown off originally by the supposedly documented location and vague descriptions. My primary goal here is to not loose this to history.
Thanks for your help and insight everyone. I don't have any USGS maps, but here is a goggle Earf view at this flickr.com link: http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8394/8685690413_2d254525d5_o.jpg North is up, Tunnel camp is down. The only coordinates I could find on the net are indicated at the top "red cross" (need better icons...lol) Actually, my reading put the cemetery way up on the hill so I can't figure that one out. In any case, sorry for the delay David- I was away from the computer all day. Hope your trip went well! Here's an example. Facing northward.
South Pass City, approximately 90 miles north of Rock Springs, is a historic site administered by the state of Wyoming. It consists of over 30 log, frame, and stone buildings, along with the Carissa Mine and Stamp Mill.
South Pass City Historic Site
Recently, I’ve been going through my old VHS video tapes and digitizing them to DVDs. These tapes contain my travels and explorations between 1995 and 2009. I thought I’d start releasing some video shorts of my early travels on this forum.
The back story for this particular video is as follows. On March 30, 1996, I made a short hike of about a mile and a third up the lower third of Surprise Canyon, on the western slopes of the Panamint Range, Inyo County, California. This canyon is just outside of Death Valley National Park. This canyon has running water running year round through the stretch shown, fed by substantial Limekiln Springs, and the canyon is a water wonderland. For those not familiar with the area, refer to the two maps. The first one shows the canyon in relation to the region, the other a close up of the canyon and the ghost town of Panamint City. The blue line in the close up image shows the route that was taken.
My next series of videos will be based on a trip in 2000 that I took with Lew Shorb. Lew is a board member here, as well as owner of the popular website http://www.ghosttownexplorers.org/ghost.htm
In breaking with my past habit of culling out historical sites and ghost towns and creating short videos dealing with these, I decided to keep the exploring part of Explore Forums in and create videos of each day of my travel and exploration, including our camps. Scenery, travel, camping ghost towns and wide open spaces.
Part one of this series, as well as subsequent videos, will all appear here within this same thread. Part I will start in my garage, where I was finishing up with the packing my truck. The following day, after work, I begin my travels to meet Lew Shorb at Rhyolite, Nevada ghost town.
Our three day, two night travels prowled about the "Nevada Triangle" section of northeastern Death Valley National Park; and will include such sites as:
1. The Las Vegas & Tonopah Railroad
2. Gold Bar
3. Phinney Mine
4. Strozzi Ranch
5. Currie Well (LV&T RR)
6. Mud Springs Summit (LV&T RR)
7. Happy Hooligan Mine
This video, that of March 30th and 31st, will start off this series; and is brief, only being 3:28 long. Nevada-Triangle_Shorb-2000_Part-1.wmv
So, below is my narrative of part one of this series to give full context of what is seen in the video. It will probably take longer to read than the video is long.
Exploration Field Trips:
May 1-3, 2000
Trip with Alan Patera and Alan Hensher into Death Valley
What do you do with three authors, two 4x4’s, two two-way radios, three cameras, and camping supplies? Send them to Death Valley, of course. For three days in the first week of May, 2000, fellow authors and historical researchers Alan Patera, Alan Hensher and myself explored Death Valley north and south.
Alan Patera writes and publishes the WESTERN PLACES series of monograph books. Alan Hensher has been published in several periodicals as well as authoring several books, centering primarily on the history of Mojave Desert sites.
Alan Patera, who hails from Oregon, came south to California and picked up Alan Hensher; then the two came my way. At the time I was living in Ridgecrest, California. After overnighting with my wife and I, the three of us took off for Death Valley. Alan was busy researching and photographing for a future edition of WESTERN PLACES, this time centering on the camps of the Funeral Range, which forms the eastern border of east central Death Valley. Circumstances and changes of our journey lead Alan to plant the seeds of two more future books, this time centering just outside the northernmost section of Death Valley.
Northern Nevada, Southwestern Idaho
(and a Blip of Southeastern Oregon Thrown in for Good Measure)
June 19 - 28, 2001
This is the trip that I consider to be my favorite trip I have ever undertaken. It had been in the planning stages since the previous December. Originally, quite a number of people were invited and had semi-committed themselves to come along. Over time, however, eventually the number of people whose semi-commitments became firm commitments to this trip narrowed to four. And I was one of them.
Below, a list of historic locations we visited – in the order that we visited them:
1. Bodie & Benton Railway, California.
2. Stillwater, Nevada.
3. White Cloud City (Coppereid), Nevada.
4. Unionville, Nevada.
5. Midas, Nevada.
6. Spring City, Nevada.
7. Paradise Valley, Nevada.
8. Buckskin, Nevada.
9. National, Nevada.
10. Delamar, Idaho.
11. Silver City, Idaho.
12. Rio Tinto, Nevada.
13. Pattsville, Nevada.
14. Aura, Nevada.
15. Cornucopia, Nevada.
16. Edgemont, Nevada (from a distance – on private property)
17. White Rock, Nevada (from a distance – on private property)
18. Tuscaurora, Nevada.
19. Dinner Station, Nevada.
20. Metropolis, Nevada.
21. Charleston, Nevada.
22. Jarbidge, Nevada.