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  1. This is the reply that I got back from an email that I sent to the contact link at the website on the issue of being able to load mineral survey information for the state of Nevada. "Good morning Ernie, In regards to your request, your best option would be to contact the Nevada State Office Public Information Center. They would be able to give you instructions on how to view/load the mineral surveys. They can be reached at 775-861-6400. Thanks in advance, Andrea"
  2. For some reason, the website does not seem to work as well for Nevada as it does for Arizona. I will try to explain what I do in Arizona first and then the extent to what I could make happen for Nevada. For Arizona, at the website linked to above, I click on the option "Survey Plats and Field Notes". On the page that comes up next, I will select "Arizona". Then toward the bottom, under Miscellaneous, I will choose "Mineral Survey" or "Homestead Entry Survey" and then to the far right I will enter the number associated with the USLM monument in the space "Survey No."Clicking the search button takes me right to the info for that survey. A list can be created by Clicking on Arizona for the state, then entering a county name, and then once again choosing the survey type....mineral or homestead entry. I am not really familiar with Nevada. I had been to Belmont once, so I looked on a topo for that area. There are quite a few USLM monuments west of there near Manhattan. With several of those numbers in hand, I tried to follow the same procedure that I use for Arizona. The results were "No Records found"......... I tried going the county route and entered Nye for the county. Once again, no records found was the result for "Mineral Surveys". However, when I tried the search again with the filter, "Homestead Entry Surveys"selected, quite a few records popped up. Those were other monuments than the ones that I had jotted down. So.........at this point in time, I do not know what is going on with Nevada USLM monuments of the Mineral Survey variety. Perhaps someone at a BLM facility could help out............. I have not been able to make the U.S. Location Monument option work for Arizona either....It seems that the options that work are Mineral Survey or Homestead Entry Survey.
  3. Before the Township and Range land grid was established, United States Location Monuments were set as the reference points for the surveys required of patented mining claims and early homesteads. The newest of these that I have come across are 100, or more, years old. The monuments, physically, are pretty interesting. They were often large stones with the letters USLM and the survey number chiseled into them. A cross on the stone was the point from which bearing and distance measurements were taken. To the side of the monument stone was a very large rock cairn( 4' x 6'). In addition, there would be marks or tags placed on at least two trees or other stones nearby. These trees/stones would have the additional marks BT or BR marked so that they would not be confused with the actual monument. The distances and bearings from these trees/stones to the monument were made. If it was ever thought that monument had been moved, its position against the Bearing Trees or Bearing Rocks could be made. What is really interesting, is that the history of each monument is available online at this BLM website: https://glorecords.blm.gov/default.aspx The photos are from USLM 2395 located on a hilltop east of the town of Florence, in central Arizona. The 1st photo is typical of how location monuments are represented on maps. The 2nd photo is the monument stone. All bearings and distance measurements were taken from the cross. The 3rd photo is of the adjacent rock cairn. This rock mound was used by future persons to be able to locate the actual monument. The 4th photo is of one of the Bearing Rocks that was nearby. Measurements from this rock and another rock nearby confirmed the location of the actual monument. The 5th photo is the survey map produced from the location of monument 2395. It was a reference for several mining claims. Note that the distances were measured to .1 feet. The final photo shows the names of the claims, the claim owners, and the surveyor. Monument 2395 was established in 1907. With names and dates, it is possible to expand the research of the area. Since my visit to this monument, I have become an avid monument hunter.
  4. Very good on your finds down in Johnson Canyon!!
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    Railroad Photography

    Along the section of right of way east of Tucson that was re-directed and is no longer a part of the mainline, 2 1/2 miles of locomotives have been stashed. I estimate that there are at least 200 of the machines parked there. Unfortunately, roving guards do not allow close access for photos.....This is a view from Google Earth that shows one end of the string.
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    Railroad Photography

    A view of "then and now" of one of the bridges on the old Morenci Southern Railway in east central Arizona. In the early 1900's, the railroad line hauled passengers and freight to service the mines at Morenci. The line was was known as the "corkscrew" railroad. It took multiple 360 degree loops using tunnels, bridges and trestles to gain the elevation necessary for the trains to reach their destination.
  7. Thanks everyone for the comments! The Apaches did work the area over pretty hard. In 1880, 41 people were killed in the Alma Massacre, including James Cooney who had provided the name for the Cooney Mine Camp. Supposedly, in 1980, a David Foreman, of the radical environmentalist group, Earth Watch, erected a monument/marker in the forest to honor the Apache chief who had led the massacre. Foreman thanked the Chief for chasing away the miners and other settlers, leaving the land pristine so that in later years it could be declared a wilderness.......
  8. I recently traveled to several sites out along the Arizona/New Mexico Border. Charlie Moore Place, located just inside Arizona, is supposed to have been the site of a ranch, in which, Charlie Moore accepted bribes from rustlers using a trail nearby. The bribes bought his silence whenever lawmen came snooping around. There are 6 or 7 landmarks near the place that have Charlie Moore’s name attached. Charlie was murdered in 1888 and is buried in a small ranch cemetery nearby. The cemetery is interesting in that all of the 7 persons buried there died a violent death. Most were killed by Apaches. Charlie’s grave marker states that he was murdered at “Lovney”. That is a typographical error. It should read “Cooney”. Cooney was a mining camp east of Charlie Moore’s Place. He was shot after a conflict with a saloon keeper. Cooney was a thriving camp through the early 1900’s. Not much remains today. There are a few relics and foundations. The canyon below Cooney is spectacular with tall sheer walls. The two managers of the WS Ranch during the 1880’s and 1890’s later wrote their memoirs. They acknowledge Charlie Moore as an employee, but neither mentions any association of him to Charlie Moore Place or to any activity that could be interpreted as illegal….
  9. These pieces are similar to the "wafers" that I have seen that were the "cells" that were stacked together in older style dry cell batteries. The ones in the photo are much larger, however. This is pretty much a wild guess......
  10. If you would have turned up Putnam Wash, or other roads to the northwest, you probably would have seen signs or maybe even have encountered locked gates. The rancher has recently inherited a neighboring ranch and has turned management of that over to his kids. I have heard that they are even more restrictive than he is...... The Camp Grant Wash was one of the original routes for the road to Winkelman from Tucson. On older maps, it is labeled as such. I think that the river that you would have encountered would have been the San Pedro. Just a few years ago, it was possible to cross theSan Pedro River at the old rock quarry on Putnam Wash and access highway 77. Landowners, I believe have blocked that road...... Nowadays, I think you have to go south toward Mammoth or north toward Winkelman to escape....
  11. Always had a great time driving this wash as a young man growing up in the area. We were also often in the area when our kids were small and we needed a quick place to get to for an afternoon of shooting(this was in the days before the restrictions on target shooting)and cooking up some hot dogs... My understanding is that the major landowner to the north and west has really restricted vehicular travel across land under his control....Was this ranch your destination or did you come to it as you were passing by?
  12. Matt, you were out quite a ways from Tucson if this was a day trip. But there are worse drives to be had! I have not been to the Indian ruins, but have been to the cabins a couple of times with bear hunting friends. I am pleasantly surprised that they and their contents seem pretty much the same as when I was last here in 2006. You are correct about the outstanding views!
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    Aztec Peak

    Those are really nice photos!!!
  14. Toysx2

    A Most Beautiful Failure

    I do not remember when the large power lines were constructed near this area. My brother in law was the helicopter pilot responsible for stringing the preliminary ropes through the towers during the line's construction. While on those flights, he noted the surface ruins as well as the cliff ruins that were nearby. On his days off, he was allowed to use the helicopter for personal use and he took several of us to the more accessible hilltop ruins. We were always going to return to the cliff ruins, but never did............We sure should have.....It is also too late for us to be able to do a trip like this.........................
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