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Well we now know what to expect when we do! Part of me want's to take a kayak or cheap raft into the lower one for the absurdity of it.
Good looking buck you got there. Here's some more high elevation exploring out of alpine co.
OK I'm not up in the area now but I was curious if I had the right spot or not. It is another one of those generic names that other places are also called. Far too many places with names with Bear, Grouse, Pine, Green, Grass, etc, in them. Stay hopeful he will be found OK.
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Back to the cabin that was rusted closed in the above vid and is now no longer. Few bears on this trip.... like 8, LOL.
While not my most steady camera work this one was really special to me. It was quite a difficult and long trek to get back for a place I was not even sure was there or not. The old pack trail does not appear on any maps and is about the same non existent condition in person with the occasional remnants here and there. There was a good deal or back tracking and searching around to find where we think we should be going. Sources of water were quite often farther apart then I would of liked... or pretty gross. And I found myself cussing the intolerable long filter times from the sawyer mini filter. I still have it and I still hate it. I'm particularly proud that my daughter was able to make this one. What we found was pretty spectacular. I thought the fact that some of these places in the Sierras spend the winters buried in snow would destroy them faster I'm wondering if the opposite may be true. The little note in the message can really makes you think about things, has anybody been in a situation like that?
^^^ Please tell me that is a real reason somebody gave for cabins being locked. That is so lame and stupid, but at the same time sadly believable, that I want it to be true as it'll help illustrate their real intentions. That would make sense to cut down or stop a cattle allotment from being in the area. But people in a building... nothing to do with what little dribble of a creek I'm sure it is up there. I did talk to somebody about two of the cabins I mentioned above. One is part of a cattle allotment which I thought. He told me the name of who it is but I forgot the name like a dummy or to ask what they thought about being able to use/help upkeep, etc. The other they said the allotment either got cut so much by quantity and time that they don't bother getting it all or they just don't bother going up that far. Not an official statement by any means but seems to coincide with the conditions I observed. The agricultural allotments map on mylandmatters says there is nothing in the area at all which also seems like that cannot be correct.
The one at Meiss Meadow is on the PCT. Im sure it's kept locked to insure that a thru hiker doesn't leave granola crumbs inside. On a serious note I think that is a good example of one that should be open because it would be used publicly because it is on higher traffic trails. Some of these places I do think should be opened up and their locations semi known. That is how they get taken care of and not forgotten to where they rot away. And there is always going to be an exception to the rule and at times it ends up being the forest service or BLM. Locking something up in some situations is a form of vandalism at times IMO.
Couple more places in alpine. These were locked/rusted shut so a lot of the footage is just of the area in general and some mountain quail hunting. I plan to go back and check out the one that is rusted closed for sure and I didn't even think to check around places for a key on the other. Looking back on the footage I noticed the bears had been trying to get in and left their muddy prints on and around the door. When I go back I think I'll go from a different direction even though it'll be even longer.
I never updated what I found about the place I was asking about and I have since found three other locked public cabins. The first time up it was locked with a chain and an old standard master lock. There was also bolt cutters accessible somewhere in the area of buildings. My plan was to cut one of the chain links and add another combo lock. That way the old lock would still be there, the door would be closed secure for the snow, and I could give the combo to others to use as well, forest service, etc. I went up there again in the beginning of summer with my daughter. Well it was already cut, bolt cutters moved, and the entire chain was replaced with a keyed cable lock. Several days later when we were exiting to go back home we stopped in the ranger station. We were looking around at the maps and the taxidermied animals when the ranger asked if I was Steve and wanted to talk to us. How did she know my name? Then I realized she must of read it off the wilderness permit I dropped of before and they probably wasn't too many other people backpacking with a 9 year old girl up there. She wanted to ask us about another place even farther back that we had planned to go to, if we even found it, was it even still there etc. I asked her about the lock being cut on the other place and she had said that the guy who did it came in and told her that he did it and that he had some stuff up there he wanted to keep secure. I'm sorry but WTF? The historical cabin on public land is not your personal place to keep all to yourself. First off what on earth is somebody storing in a cabin miles into an extremely lightly traveled area accessible only by foot or pack animal that your concerned would be taken? Food or some fuel? I could see being a problem if you had it up there, counting on it being there, and then was used or eaten and your very far away. Rig up something secure in the cabin not the entire cabin itself. Rig up an ammo box to be locked or something. Reality check nobody is hauling away your salvation army level items out of there and anything worth the extra weight of carting out shouldn't be left there in the first place. The other public land locked cabins I've encountered since. One that was vehicle accessible. Rock construction. The outside of the door had messages of people who had enjoyed the cabin over the years, people visiting from germany, etc. Two big locks on the door and some recent messages inquiring why it's locked or they would love to see the inside someday etc. There is a chance that this one could be part of a mine claim or it could just be somebody claiming something public for themselves. The one legitimate concern since it is accessible by vehicle the chance of vandalism is higher. There was a historic building close by in the area that BLM had fixed up by putting windows and doors stabilizing etc and some scumbags broke all three doors and broke every single window except one. I found two more yesterday, both are 5+ miles into the wilderness, hike or pack access only. The whole area was gorgeous but looked to be infrequently visited by people. There were plenty of cows though, so much so that the cattle trails were often more defined then the actual trail. Kind of made for keeping track of normal trail a bit difficult at times but I was also bird hunting so I don't really follow trails all the time then anyways, I go where I think birds may be. The first one looked to be not used in decent amount of time as I could see it was dirty inside and was in need of clean up and repairs. This one I'm going to say is only sort of locked and that not being able to get into it may only be the result of rust. It had a chain locked to another chain that was simply attached with a bolt and washers... that had rusted over time. The other was quite difficult to find. It was not near any of the trails in the area. It was in excellent condition. Near water, excellent view, about as perfect as they can come, except it was locked. This one was most likely part of a legitimate cattle lease. Even so I still find it sort of off that a difficult to find cabin deep in a lightly visited area of the sierras really needs to be locked. Seems like others should be able to enjoy it more complete as well. How many places are there out there on public land are locked by either the forest service, BLM, or a private person? Do you think these places should be locked to bar access and prevent "theft" and vandalism or should they be public use cabins. I feel that they should be open. Particularly the ones that are so hard to get to. The harder they are to get to and find I think the less likely you get the type of people that would vandalize or steal. Seems the cabins that are vehicle accessible are more often the ones that end up being the unlocked and cared for and the ones that you have to hike to too often have a lock on them and are in different stages of neglect.
SteveHazard replied to braindead0's topic in General DiscussionLooks like it is a newer style system that the whole top system is replaceable and the top looks brand new. Gauge gets damaged instead of trying to do the repairs out in the field they just bolt a new one on and take the old one? I'm guessing you happened upon during a service time or upgrade and the electronics just were not there yet. The other tin square to the North is a small game guzzler. That is the style and size that NV often uses and you can tell it is not a full structure because the shadow profile is not that tall. In all the different small game guzzlers I have seen in NV and CA I have never once seen one that is electronically monitored or measured. The small game guzzlers are installed in groups or as "bridge" sources between other natural sources. They just would not be that important idividually to monitor electronically. A big game guzzler for sheep I could see maybe being monitored that way. The stuff in the gully could just be trash or an old guzzler and when they replaced they located it higher up where it would be easier to install and service.
You have protunes on that model so you should be able to get really good looking video if you take the time to do a little color correcting. There won't be any one perfect setting for everything but I think the main changes are going to be for the type of light conditions in the protune settings. The FOV is your preference, for explore vids I would use wide or medium. Resolution is again preference but go 1080 or better. If you pan smoothly at a proper speed just stick with 30 or 24FPS. However if you sometimes pan an area too fast and are at 60FPS you can slow it down later. This guy has an awesome video explaining how to make use of the protune settings and the color correcting software in DaVinci Resolve to get gopro footage looking really good like it should. And as soon as I upgrade my lowly Hero3+Silver to a gopro with protunes the above are the sort of things I will be trying in regards to color. For stabilization when just holding the camera I'd at the very least put it on a pole. I have one made by Smatree which I think was really good for the price. For those of you out there like me that are using an older gopro without protunes I recently started putting a filter on my footage to at least try and get rid of that stale cold looking gopro colors. For forest shots in premiere pro I've put the western gold filter at between 40-50%. Saturation up to around 110% and I think I started to adjust something else as well. It's not great but it's certainly better then the default gopro.
Thanks for joining and sharing your videos but I really think it was unnecessary to spam your entire video catalog into a separate thread for each video all at once. Maybe a mod could condense some of these so that the first three pages of the video section are not a backlog for a single person.
I started with Movie Maker and am now using Premiere Pro CC off my sister's Adobe. The other editor I'm going to look into using is DaVinci Resolve because they look to have really simple and good color correcting... but until I upgrade my GoPro 3 to a newer one that has Protunes it's not something that I need to do yet. Speaking of GoPro's and action cameras in general. Don't get one unless you are going to need them for action. I've used mine for explore vids but only as a backup after my phone either died or filled up. The position, mount, etc you place these things are very important. Never ever use a stock head strap or top of a helmet mount they look terrible. If your going to use a head strap look very hard and try to find one with a quick release and not that stupid fixed gopro style mount. If you have have a head strap with the fixed mount cut it off, shape it some, and stick a curved surface quick release mount on it using heat instead. The quick release lets you use J hook and other mounts to invert the camera if you want getting the lens 2 " closer to your eyes. Doesn't sound like much but it makes big a difference for somethings. If your just doing something quickly holding the camera in your mouth looks really good, expect breathing sound though. I don't care for handle bar mounts for riding. If your on a motorcycle and have a full face mount you can rig the camera to the front of the mouth guard. Otherwise chest mounts are pretty good, I try to raise them some. Unless it's pouring or your submerging the camera never use the waterproof cases, it makes the sound terrible. There are a lot of good affordable alternatives to GoPro out there now. That being said GoPro does offer some things that other cameras do not if you need them. Superview, Protunes, and the Hero 6 EIS looks amazing. All features my old Hero3+ Silver does not have. The GoPro Hero 2018 is the same exact hardware as a Hero 5 Black just with the features locked. People have made an update folder and if you have one you can update it now. I think the auto settings/color on all these cameras look bad. Even some of the best looking ones still look better when somebody puts in their own. Hopefully I'll be able to budget aside some money for something better then my old Hero3.
South Pass City, approximately 90 miles north of Rock Springs, is a historic site administered by the state of Wyoming. It consists of over 30 log, frame, and stone buildings, along with the Carissa Mine and Stamp Mill.
South Pass City Historic Site
Recently, I’ve been going through my old VHS video tapes and digitizing them to DVDs. These tapes contain my travels and explorations between 1995 and 2009. I thought I’d start releasing some video shorts of my early travels on this forum.
The back story for this particular video is as follows. On March 30, 1996, I made a short hike of about a mile and a third up the lower third of Surprise Canyon, on the western slopes of the Panamint Range, Inyo County, California. This canyon is just outside of Death Valley National Park. This canyon has running water running year round through the stretch shown, fed by substantial Limekiln Springs, and the canyon is a water wonderland. For those not familiar with the area, refer to the two maps. The first one shows the canyon in relation to the region, the other a close up of the canyon and the ghost town of Panamint City. The blue line in the close up image shows the route that was taken.
My next series of videos will be based on a trip in 2000 that I took with Lew Shorb. Lew is a board member here, as well as owner of the popular website http://www.ghosttownexplorers.org/ghost.htm
In breaking with my past habit of culling out historical sites and ghost towns and creating short videos dealing with these, I decided to keep the exploring part of Explore Forums in and create videos of each day of my travel and exploration, including our camps. Scenery, travel, camping ghost towns and wide open spaces.
Part one of this series, as well as subsequent videos, will all appear here within this same thread. Part I will start in my garage, where I was finishing up with the packing my truck. The following day, after work, I begin my travels to meet Lew Shorb at Rhyolite, Nevada ghost town.
Our three day, two night travels prowled about the "Nevada Triangle" section of northeastern Death Valley National Park; and will include such sites as:
1. The Las Vegas & Tonopah Railroad
2. Gold Bar
3. Phinney Mine
4. Strozzi Ranch
5. Currie Well (LV&T RR)
6. Mud Springs Summit (LV&T RR)
7. Happy Hooligan Mine
This video, that of March 30th and 31st, will start off this series; and is brief, only being 3:28 long. Nevada-Triangle_Shorb-2000_Part-1.wmv
So, below is my narrative of part one of this series to give full context of what is seen in the video. It will probably take longer to read than the video is long.
Exploration Field Trips:
May 1-3, 2000
Trip with Alan Patera and Alan Hensher into Death Valley
What do you do with three authors, two 4x4’s, two two-way radios, three cameras, and camping supplies? Send them to Death Valley, of course. For three days in the first week of May, 2000, fellow authors and historical researchers Alan Patera, Alan Hensher and myself explored Death Valley north and south.
Alan Patera writes and publishes the WESTERN PLACES series of monograph books. Alan Hensher has been published in several periodicals as well as authoring several books, centering primarily on the history of Mojave Desert sites.
Alan Patera, who hails from Oregon, came south to California and picked up Alan Hensher; then the two came my way. At the time I was living in Ridgecrest, California. After overnighting with my wife and I, the three of us took off for Death Valley. Alan was busy researching and photographing for a future edition of WESTERN PLACES, this time centering on the camps of the Funeral Range, which forms the eastern border of east central Death Valley. Circumstances and changes of our journey lead Alan to plant the seeds of two more future books, this time centering just outside the northernmost section of Death Valley.
Northern Nevada, Southwestern Idaho
(and a Blip of Southeastern Oregon Thrown in for Good Measure)
June 19 - 28, 2001
This is the trip that I consider to be my favorite trip I have ever undertaken. It had been in the planning stages since the previous December. Originally, quite a number of people were invited and had semi-committed themselves to come along. Over time, however, eventually the number of people whose semi-commitments became firm commitments to this trip narrowed to four. And I was one of them.
Below, a list of historic locations we visited – in the order that we visited them:
1. Bodie & Benton Railway, California.
2. Stillwater, Nevada.
3. White Cloud City (Coppereid), Nevada.
4. Unionville, Nevada.
5. Midas, Nevada.
6. Spring City, Nevada.
7. Paradise Valley, Nevada.
8. Buckskin, Nevada.
9. National, Nevada.
10. Delamar, Idaho.
11. Silver City, Idaho.
12. Rio Tinto, Nevada.
13. Pattsville, Nevada.
14. Aura, Nevada.
15. Cornucopia, Nevada.
16. Edgemont, Nevada (from a distance – on private property)
17. White Rock, Nevada (from a distance – on private property)
18. Tuscaurora, Nevada.
19. Dinner Station, Nevada.
20. Metropolis, Nevada.
21. Charleston, Nevada.
22. Jarbidge, Nevada.