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desertdog started following Hi from Southern CA, Abandoned mining camp in Nevada, Ghirardelli Chocolate Outlet and Ice Cream Store in Lathrop, California - Road Trip Day 12 Vlog 31 and and 2 others
Too bad you didn't enter the mine. I was hoping for some footage from the north crosscut. We have plans to return and rappel down the inclined shaft at the end of that crosscut, as it seems the only viable rope access to the lower levels (it's a rather deep mine). The winze near the portal offers no suitable anchors, and the south crosscut only gives us a stope to descend. I took limited video there in 2015, and mostly photos. Was also curious to see if Reverend Zack Zagato's business card remained at the end of the south crosscut. We ran into him at Poinsettia on that same trip. He turned out to be a really interesting human being, but certainly marches to the beat of his own drum! A major mining corp (forget which, it's in the BLM records) recently did a bunch of work there. The big, relatively clear area as you come up the hill and veer left towards where the shack and mine are, was not a big clear area 3 years ago. In fact, they buried another inclined shaft on the SW corner of that clearing. I have no idea how well they plugged it, though. In 2015 the road up there was ... not a road. More like a series of gullies, washes, and 5 foot ruts. A 3 mile slog in 4-low is not fun.
desertdog replied to LexandNeek's topic in Youtube VideosYou can see the Lathrop one from the freeway. There used to be a Hershey's factory out in Oakdale, too. Wife and I went there on Valentine's Day, 2000. It closed down a few years later. Very impressive operation, and not nearly as high tech as I thought it would be.
What *is* private and what *is* public/BLM is a matter of public record, available at the relevant county recorder's office. I mean, it's not like there's a conspiracy to secretly alter parcel/APN information in the various county offices. Finding the information might be a challenge, since the PLSS is such an arcane and difficult system to work with at times, but the information is there. It's more a question of how much time you want to put into the research.
I look at them often, but never fully understood what I was looking at. This helps me date them, at least (roughly). Sometimes we get lucky and find one where the paint hasn't completely rusted over and then get some information there. Or if there is embossing, even better (like the blasting cap can lid I found last year. Mostly I like to be able to date what I'm looking at, relative to the site and its history.
OK, I'm not sure what in blazes is going on, so let's try a different forum! http://www.broadbentinc.com/a-practical-workshop-on-tin-can-identification-and-analysis/ The URL for the PDF itself is: http://www.broadbentinc.com/publicFiles/What_Can_This_Be_A_Practical_Workshop_on.pdf I would like to see replies an conversation on this, since the guide is woefully incomplete, and I'm sure there is a lot more info to collect and collate on the topic.
desertdog posted a topic in Abandoned Places and Ghost Town Articles, History And InformationOK, I'm not sure what happened the first time around. I see there is a "Lock topic" option for moderators, but I didn't purposefully click that (maybe I moused over it and screwed something up earlier - I'm not sure). But I'm looking at the "Lock topic" checkbox right now and it's UNchecked. The URL is: http://www.broadbentinc.com/a-practical-workshop-on-tin-can-identification-and-analysis/ The URL for the PDF itself is: http://www.broadbentinc.com/publicFiles/What_Can_This_Be_A_Practical_Workshop_on.pdf The original post was made from home today. I was able to access both links on that computer just fine. This post is being made from work, completely different computer, network, etc. and the links both work here, too. If the links don't work, or this goes "locked", please PM me and let me know. So odd.
Yeah, it's always a range of 'emotions' with girls, I think. "Awww" "Cute" "Ewww" "Ugh" "Hmmm" "Yum". Tacoma's are nice trucks, and at least you have the longer bed. The 5 1/2 foot bed gets a little tedious at times, where I could really use the extra room for more fuel, water, and firewood. The tradeoff is the back seat, which gives me more locking storage. I haven't put my oldest behind an AR, yet. I was thinking about my loadout for the trip, and the fact I'm going to be really off the grid with one of the kids. I think I'll drag an AR with me and let her squeeze off a few rounds. Who knows, maybe we'll do some pest control on top of it all.
Well, that's what the majority of us do away from the keyboard, when we can - wander. The world is big, and wandering is so much more fun than having a fixed itinerary. Always looking, never sure for what exactly, but for something that pushes the Big Red Investigate button in your brain. And then I pity those who, by choice alone, choose to live only an urban, always-on-always-connected lifestyle. I guess they find joy there, but I do not.
A shotgun and a rock hammer. That just draws a really entertaining picture in my head. But yeah, I remember all sorts of trips with dad where I'd just sort of wander around, doing whatever, with not a care in the world, until someone said it was time to eat/go/sleep/fish/shoot/whatever. We have friends with a ranch up near Cloverdale - that's the first place I ever shot off the back of a horse (coyote) as a kid, and where I learned to ride a horse, for that matter. Those damn beasts still fascinate and amaze me, second only to dogs.
The oldest just turned 10 a few days ago. T'other one is but 15 months old (crappy spacing on that, but oh well) and doesn't speak English, has no job, limited skills, and expects everything to be handed to her! She stays home, for now. I exposed the oldest to dead stuff at an early age, but it seems the "eww gross" still somehow set in, to some degree or another - it's very odd. When she was 4, I came home with my first bear. I couldn't keep her from poking the head and teeth and trying to "see the brain". When she was 7 or 8, I came home with a nice buck (first one I'd had time to kill since she'd been born). The ticks and fleas were thick, and she wanted to crawl all over it, blood and all. That night she sat down and ate fried heart with me. But slice open a trout stomach and show her what it's been eating, and she's about ready to hurl. She makes me catch snakes (little racers) so she can see them up close, but refuses to admit she's eaten cottontail rabbit. *shrug* I don't think I'm ready to teach her how to drive, yet. She's a little too goofy for my liking and I need her to mature some. Is yours a newer or older Tacoma? I drive a '14 w/ 6sp. now, but I miss my 2004 (wouldn't accommodate the bigger family, though). She loves going places in the truck, and I even took the time to re-install my BlueSky rack with some custom mounts so she can stow her Crickett up top. I love taking her out shooting, and she's developing very good habits in terms of breathing, sighting, and trigger squeeze. I just wish she was a little bigger so she'd be comfortable with the little 10/22 I built into a 200 yard Gopher Murdering Tool of Global Domination!
So 18 years changes a lot of things I'm sure, but I recall plenty of wide spots in the road to pull out, and ample feeder roads that could get you to nice grassy flat spots. I'll be trying to take lots of video, so I'll make note of where the good boondock-y areas are. We'll be doing the same, only I told the kid "No Tents!" Moving camp each day is a PITA and a tent adds to the PITA. The first 1/2 of the trip is based off "Rockhounding Nevada" (2nd Ed.), and the first stop will probably be the Lund Petrified 'Forest' (she's curious about what a petrified forest is really like...) Up past Lund, I recall stopping at the foot of a bluff (the road starts to make a right turn, but all I have is my memory of the area). I found baseketball-sized pieces of some sort of silicate mineral - semi-opaque, a very deep green color, almost olive drab, with a yellowish crust on it here and there. The fracture was not conchoidal, and the hardness was maybe in the 5-7 range at best. To this day I still have not been able to positively identify the mineral, and I gave away all my pieces of it to so-called "experts" in the hopes that they could ID it. The color is almost spot-on for epidote, but the physical properties are not. It looked amorphous like obsidian, but did not 'work' like obsidian. This has been an 18-year mystery and I hope I can find more pieces to settle it once and for all. As for the kid, she pouted when I told her "no iPod Touch". So I'm not sure what sort of memories she'll have, other than ones of some sort of backwards, dystopian, technology-limited existence without phones, the Internet, or 'apps'. :-/
The Delco started to shit the bed after my epic winching event, after having an undercut road cave in on me. It still had enough amps for a few years to start the truck, but it lost a lot of capacity after that incident. When changing the oil a few weeks ago, I had the radio on (and the fan at low speed, which is why I did not notice it). An hour of low-speed fan and the radio on, and the truck wouldn't start. That right there is borderline stupid to head into the boonies like that, so out she came. The AGM's withstand high draw loads better, so I took the plunge.
I'm dragging the oldest kid out to NW Nevada soon - mostly for some rockhounding, but I'm sure she'll get a kick out of the Rhyolite Castle and its abandoned shack. I camped there with a friend 18 years ago, and now I'm going back with my own kid. The plan is to make our way up into the obsidian beds near Davis Creek, CA by way of Leadville, Vya, Cedarville, etc. Either way, we're getting the hell out for a few days with no phones and no interwebs. The InReach is for her to use if I keel over and die, since she can't reach the pedals yet. I told her school I was taking her away for some real education. There will be guns, fire, exploring, much dirt and dust, possibly some critters and impromptu meals.
South Pass City, approximately 90 miles north of Rock Springs, is a historic site administered by the state of Wyoming. It consists of over 30 log, frame, and stone buildings, along with the Carissa Mine and Stamp Mill.
South Pass City Historic Site
Recently, I’ve been going through my old VHS video tapes and digitizing them to DVDs. These tapes contain my travels and explorations between 1995 and 2009. I thought I’d start releasing some video shorts of my early travels on this forum.
The back story for this particular video is as follows. On March 30, 1996, I made a short hike of about a mile and a third up the lower third of Surprise Canyon, on the western slopes of the Panamint Range, Inyo County, California. This canyon is just outside of Death Valley National Park. This canyon has running water running year round through the stretch shown, fed by substantial Limekiln Springs, and the canyon is a water wonderland. For those not familiar with the area, refer to the two maps. The first one shows the canyon in relation to the region, the other a close up of the canyon and the ghost town of Panamint City. The blue line in the close up image shows the route that was taken.
My next series of videos will be based on a trip in 2000 that I took with Lew Shorb. Lew is a board member here, as well as owner of the popular website http://www.ghosttownexplorers.org/ghost.htm
In breaking with my past habit of culling out historical sites and ghost towns and creating short videos dealing with these, I decided to keep the exploring part of Explore Forums in and create videos of each day of my travel and exploration, including our camps. Scenery, travel, camping ghost towns and wide open spaces.
Part one of this series, as well as subsequent videos, will all appear here within this same thread. Part I will start in my garage, where I was finishing up with the packing my truck. The following day, after work, I begin my travels to meet Lew Shorb at Rhyolite, Nevada ghost town.
Our three day, two night travels prowled about the "Nevada Triangle" section of northeastern Death Valley National Park; and will include such sites as:
1. The Las Vegas & Tonopah Railroad
2. Gold Bar
3. Phinney Mine
4. Strozzi Ranch
5. Currie Well (LV&T RR)
6. Mud Springs Summit (LV&T RR)
7. Happy Hooligan Mine
This video, that of March 30th and 31st, will start off this series; and is brief, only being 3:28 long. Nevada-Triangle_Shorb-2000_Part-1.wmv
So, below is my narrative of part one of this series to give full context of what is seen in the video. It will probably take longer to read than the video is long.
Exploration Field Trips:
May 1-3, 2000
Trip with Alan Patera and Alan Hensher into Death Valley
What do you do with three authors, two 4x4’s, two two-way radios, three cameras, and camping supplies? Send them to Death Valley, of course. For three days in the first week of May, 2000, fellow authors and historical researchers Alan Patera, Alan Hensher and myself explored Death Valley north and south.
Alan Patera writes and publishes the WESTERN PLACES series of monograph books. Alan Hensher has been published in several periodicals as well as authoring several books, centering primarily on the history of Mojave Desert sites.
Alan Patera, who hails from Oregon, came south to California and picked up Alan Hensher; then the two came my way. At the time I was living in Ridgecrest, California. After overnighting with my wife and I, the three of us took off for Death Valley. Alan was busy researching and photographing for a future edition of WESTERN PLACES, this time centering on the camps of the Funeral Range, which forms the eastern border of east central Death Valley. Circumstances and changes of our journey lead Alan to plant the seeds of two more future books, this time centering just outside the northernmost section of Death Valley.
Northern Nevada, Southwestern Idaho
(and a Blip of Southeastern Oregon Thrown in for Good Measure)
June 19 - 28, 2001
This is the trip that I consider to be my favorite trip I have ever undertaken. It had been in the planning stages since the previous December. Originally, quite a number of people were invited and had semi-committed themselves to come along. Over time, however, eventually the number of people whose semi-commitments became firm commitments to this trip narrowed to four. And I was one of them.
Below, a list of historic locations we visited – in the order that we visited them:
1. Bodie & Benton Railway, California.
2. Stillwater, Nevada.
3. White Cloud City (Coppereid), Nevada.
4. Unionville, Nevada.
5. Midas, Nevada.
6. Spring City, Nevada.
7. Paradise Valley, Nevada.
8. Buckskin, Nevada.
9. National, Nevada.
10. Delamar, Idaho.
11. Silver City, Idaho.
12. Rio Tinto, Nevada.
13. Pattsville, Nevada.
14. Aura, Nevada.
15. Cornucopia, Nevada.
16. Edgemont, Nevada (from a distance – on private property)
17. White Rock, Nevada (from a distance – on private property)
18. Tuscaurora, Nevada.
19. Dinner Station, Nevada.
20. Metropolis, Nevada.
21. Charleston, Nevada.
22. Jarbidge, Nevada.