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SteveHazard

Mojave Mines and Cabins

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Daughter and I try to sneak out and explore places out in the Mojave to or from visiting family in Vegas and this last time was no exception. Had actually intended to go to a different part of the preserve that I believe  less known but the park service had road closed stuff up even though I pretty sure it was fine. I know Bob and crew have been to some of the buildings here. The big cabin had people there so we didn't get to check it out. Checked out the Evening Star mine remains and what we could peak at though the bat bars... disappointing to see so many of those. But we did find a couple mines that did not have them. 

We were unfortunately short on time and memory on my phone and didn't really get to go though some of the buildings in the detail I would of liked. First lazy attempt using photoshop for the thumbnail so let me know what you think. I tried to make the intro edited interesting. This one my daughter wanted on her channel, there is also another place from the Mojave on her channel and a NIKE missile site if you want to check those out. 

 

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It sure sucks that parks service closes off roads like that. Remember there's always a way around a closed road, the forest service is stupider than you think, I've seen closed roads and less then half a mile from the closed road there's an open road that connects to the closed road, only an idiot would do that !!. If all else fails you can always just make your own road I've done that many times, only problem is it seems like any time I go off the trail I get a nail"s in my tire. Someone needs to go out there and pull those ridiculous bats bars off those mines, I haven't ran into any closed off mines yet so I think bats bars might only be installed on forest service lands, I'm not sure tho because I usually stay on BLM land and haven't seen any bats bars. Great video I was sure to subscribe looking forward to your future videos.

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Broken Hills has all been sealed up with bat bars. I agree, someone should tear them all off! I was just out there the other day and can't believe how much work it must have taken them to seal up all those mines. I can only imagine how much it ended up costing us tax payers. 

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4 minutes ago, Bob said:

Broken Hills has all been sealed up with bat bars. I agree, someone should tear them all off! I was just out there the other day and can't believe how much work it must have taken them to seal up all those mines. I can only imagine how much it ended up costing us tax payers. 

Sealing those mines is just another way for the government to control what we do.

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I would of gone down the road if my daughter had not been with me or had she not seen the huge sign. Problem was she see's this giant stop sign with a plastic jersey barrier in the middle of the road  and in her mind assumes that there must be some danger or we will get ticketed (her grandmother got a ticket recently for being in a burnt area).  I was 95% sure the closure was because or rain... which had been at least several days or more prior so it would not be over the road anymore. And if it was you just turn around. And that's usually what signs they have up: When flooded Turn Around Dont Drown. I tried to explain that the government was shutdown, the workers are furloughed, and wouldn't be here to give tickets and also why the closure was most likely not removed and still there. But she's only 10 and didn't quite get or trust what I was saying and there always was the chance the signs were legitimate and there was some sort of washout 10 or 15 miles up... which would of sucked. So I altered course to an area I had a good idea of how to get to and had a chance of enough reception for the map to work. 

There are not as many alternate routes down there as you'd think. Trying to cross the train tracks that run down the middle of the area for example. There are not very many places to cross the tracks and fewer places to fit under... assuming your vehicle has the right combination of ground clearance to not get high centered on the ruts that have been dug and low enough overall height to fit under.  

 

Those stupid bat bars.... couple things about those that piss me off. The second and third mines that had bars on them looked to be some of the more stable mines I've seen. The amount of money and time spent to do all this. And it's not just the tunnel mines but all sorts of inclines, vertical shafts, and vents.  Some of the "structures" they placed over a few vertical shafts are massive steel monsters that are 25'x 25' or bigger.  They spend who knows how much on this junk but won't spend a dime to maintain the wildlife guzzlers but what's worse is they won't let volunteers spend their own money and labor to fix many of them either. I personally feel the bat bars are a different type of vandalism. 

Went to another mine camp today that was on BLM. The cabin needs some help that it hasn't gotten in a long time but BLM had made a trail and a sign that directed you to where the mine was. The mine entrance stepped into a winze with a timbered floor with some partial failing support timbers above. There was a big sign that said danger but otherwise you were free to go up to it and access the risk yourself. With the little one again so I didn't go in this one but nice to come across one that had not been infected with the safety police mentality. 

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I wonder if the noise of a cordless angle grinder would harm the actual bats?

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8 hours ago, SteveHazard said:

I wonder if the noise of a cordless angle grinder would harm the actual bats?

I'm sure it would bother them to some extent, but harm?   I doubt it, thunder is pretty loud...  If *I* were to do something of this sort, I'd clamp a fiberglass welding blanket or two behind the bars where I'm cutting.  Not only would it provide a backstop for sparks (less change of fire) it should at least help a bit with noise. 

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